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« Thread Started on Apr 1, 2008, 1:09pm » | |
Are you, personally, doing anything different in your everyday life to help reduce greenhouse gas emissions and address global warming?
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« Reply #1 on Apr 15, 2008, 3:56pm » | |
I was going to buy a hybrid car, but they're just too expensive! Especially since gas costs so much. Now what?
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« Reply #2 on Apr 16, 2008, 12:22pm » | |
Your premise is flawed. Water Vapor is a greenhouse gas. It makes up over 90% of Green House Gases on Earth; CO2 makes up about 5%. Man-made global warming propaganda is a joke.
The atmosphere of Venus is 96.5% CO2, not water vapor. Yet this doesn't fully explain why it's surface temperature is approx. 800°F. (see http://brneurosci.org/co2.html)
To believe mankind can emit enough CO2 to cause global warming is ridiculous.
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« Reply #3 on Apr 16, 2008, 2:01pm » | |
Quote:| Your premise is flawed. Water Vapor is a greenhouse gas. It makes up over 90% of Green House Gases on Earth; CO2 makes up about 5%. |
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...and if the atmosphere were 5% carbon monoxide, we'd all be dead. Small percentages make big differences when multiplied over the entire world.
Quote:| The atmosphere of Venus is 96.5% CO2, not water vapor. Yet this doesn't fully explain why it's surface temperature is approx. 800°F. |
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You're just supporting the argument that CO2 is a potent greenhouse gas.
Look, no one says CO2 is the greatest factor in the greenhouse effect. No one is even saying the greenhouse effect is a bad thing; but if temperatures rise, something had to cause it, and the only other thing to rise with temp has been CO2 and other man-made GHGs.
How is it that you people can read three articles and assume to have more knowledge than someone with a PhD?
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« Reply #4 on Jun 15, 2008, 8:00pm » | |
There is a presumption here that reducing greenhouse gas (CO2 actually) is even important. If your question is about lowering energy use, to reduce dependence on foreign oil, fine, but if it is about a weather issue, the founder of 'The Weather Channel' John Coleman has made it fairly clear (as have many reputable scientists) that manmade global warming is at best a hoax, and worst case, a seriously flawed political issue that will have negative impacts on the USA with no real benefit to this "global warming" issue.
Solar activity, precession, even the orbit around the sun has a great impact on the incidence of energy on the earth, and is responsible for the many warming and cooling periods during the 4 1/2 billion year history of the planet.
If you buy into the man-made theory, Al Gore may be thrilled, but it isn't very good science, but it makes for great political arguments about whether or not the USA should be using more energy than other countries. This is an advanced economy, it is dependent on energy, why not nuclear? Clean burning Coal? Drilling for more oil (yes we CAN drill our way toward independence on middle east supplies).
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« Reply #5 on Jun 15, 2008, 10:05pm » | |
Jun 15, 2008, 8:00pm, halrogers wrote:| There is a presumption here that reducing greenhouse gas (CO2 actually) is even important. If your question is about lowering energy use, to reduce dependence on foreign oil, fine, but if it is about a weather issue, the founder of 'The Weather Channel' John Coleman has made it fairly clear (as have many reputable scientists) that manmade global warming is at best a hoax, and worst case, a seriously flawed political issue that will have negative impacts on the USA with no real benefit to this "global warming"issue. |
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And what about those that support global warming? Do you just pick and choose the voices of those who support your gut reaction? That's a bit ignorant and closed minded don't you think?
And why trust Coleman? Just because he started the weather channel? The man is 73 years old, and has no scientific training. He is not a licensed meteorologist; read his biography, he first started out as a weather caster at the age of 18. He is a businessman, and a bit of a nut job.
Here he refers to the present owners of the weather channel as "the bad guys." Don't you think global warming may just be an excuse for him to publicly discredit them?
http://www.kusi.com/about/bios/weather/1838191.html.
Quote:| This is an advanced economy, it is dependent on energy, why not nuclear? |
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Why not nuclear?
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...refers only to other pollutants, such as sulfur and mercury. Doesn't do a thing for carbon (coal is about 95% carbon by weight, how could this possibly be "clean" from a carbon standpoint?)
Quote:| Drilling for more oil (yes we CAN drill our way toward independence on middle east supplies). |
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America produces only around 5 million barrels of oil per day, yet uses around 20. Our supply peaked almost 40 years ago, meaning our reserves have been shrinking steadily ever since. If we were forced to suddenly stop importing middle eastern oil, we would only be able to supply ourselves for about 10 years.
I don't know where you would expect to find this vast ocean of oil. Alaskan Wildlife Refuge? No one knows exactly how much is there, but the average estimate is around 7.7 billion barrels. At 21 million barrels/ day, we use approximately 7.65 billion barrels per year. So the idea that the Alaskan refuge is this miracle solution, stopped only by those pesky "greens," is a bit exaggerated. One year of use is hardly a lifesaver.
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« Reply #6 on Jul 3, 2008, 3:36pm » | |
If it were'nt for greenhouse gases our temperatures would fluctuate from well over 100 degrees during the day to well below zero at night, much like Mars. Water vapor, as stated earlier makes up at least 90% of so-called greenhouse gas. Man's contribution is miniscule.
CO2 is vital for life on earth and can hardly be realistically declared harmfull.
Recorded temps. since 1998 have dropped not risen.
Man-made global warming can only be supported by belief, not fact, and has become a sort of paganistic religion to some.
The earth will continue to warm and cool, naturally, just as it has for millions of years regardless what the human race does. It's and our existance is dynamic not static and much more complex than any arrogance of man could possibly understand.
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« Reply #7 on Jul 18, 2008, 1:18pm » | |
Al Gore was right, America needs to make a commitment NOW!
A fundamental change in our driving habits is now required.
The Automobile Industry is going to be in the same position as the Airline Industry in the next few months. Unless we get away from gas combustion vehicles, including Hybrids, the automobile industry (as we know it) will die.We need to make drastic moves. America needs to move to ELECTRIC. The vehicles are not as fast, not always as fun to drive, but the move will save Americans money (Billions) and help bring change to our automotive companies. Let's "Be Green"!!!!!!!!!!!! BG Automotive Group Ltd. has a car that will travel 80-100 miles per charge for $15,995. Finally a car that most Americans can afford. Did you know that 80% of all drivers, drive less than 50 miles per day? This new car will cost an equivalent of $0.20-0.25 cents/gallon (depending on electricity rates in your area). Why send $700 Billion per year to OPEC (now buying up U.S. companies) when we can use this money for our schools, health care, social security for all Americans, etc, etc, etc. We can make the difference if WE change.
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